This debate is many things: passionate, tumultuous, stubbornly relentless... but most of all, it's long as hell. Steven & Lily debate John & Dylan on a very pointed topic within the gun debate - should firearms be the GO-TO weapon for self-defense over less-lethal self-defense weapons such as mace, tasers, and stun guns. Bonnie and Elizabeth courageously endure the entirety of this frustrating conversation and weigh in with their thoughts at its conclusion.