This is my first conversation with Gavin Palmer. In our conversation, we get into what practices are, desire for ideals, how we use maps, the glory of individuals, and what evil is, among other things. All the while (at least from my perspective) we were circling around Christianity. We hope to talk again soon. I hope you enjoy it.

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