Easter is over — but the season isn't.

Matt and Zach dive into one of the church calendar's most underestimated stretches: Eastertide, the fifty days between resurrection Sunday and Pentecost. It's the season when attendance tends to drift and energy can quietly fade — and it's exactly when intentional leadership matters most. In this episode, they get real about what it actually takes to sustain momentum after the high of Easter Sunday, from strategic sermon planning to creating experiences that give people a reason to keep showing up.

Along the way, Matt shares a baptism moment that stopped the room, and Zach recounts what made this year's outdoor sunrise service one for the books. If you've ever felt the post-Easter slump creeping in, this conversation is your game plan.

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