In this Independence Day episode of Roughly Speaking, some fresh perspectives on Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, with two leading Jefferson scholars — Annette Gordon-Reed, who won the Pulitzer Prize for history for her research on Jefferson and his slave Sally Hemings, and Pete Onuf, the Thomas Jefferson Memorial Foundation Professor Emeritus at the University of Virginia and senior researcher at the Robert H. Smith International Center for Jefferson Studies. Gordon-Reed and Onuf have collaborated on a book, “Most Blessed of the Patriarchs: Thomas Jefferson and the Empire of the Imagination.”