In this episode Steffi invited Ziemba, aka René Kladzyk to the Better Independent Podcast to talk about how to create a new sustainable music industry. Ziemba is an El Paso based musician and writer who just released her new record "True Romantic" on Sister Polygon Records, a collection of unabashed love songs. René also works as a journalist for El Paso Matters and frequently reports on the U.S.-Mexico borderlands. She is also an advocate for a music industry reform, creator of the Future Music Industry List (a compendium of music industry orgs run by women and non-binary people), co-author of a music industry investigation in partnership with TCI, and author of a guide for how to build the music industry we want and need. 

In the podcast Steffi and René talk about diversity, professionalism in the music industry and how to be an entrepreneur as an artist.

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