Our guest for this episode is our good friend Joe Labriola. His main job is teaching writing and rhetoric at Stony Brook University, but he also spends countless hours walking up and down the local beaches to pick up trash.

This type of beach cleaning is helpful to the local environment and to ocean health in general, but it also fits in perfectly with the ethos of kodawari. This is because no matter how much garbage you pick up there will always be more.

So we get into the specifics of why he beach cleans, what types of garbage he tends to find, and how it helps the environment.

And more spiritually/personally, we tried to dig under the service to figure out what motivates people to help out in this way, especially considering that it's a very Sisyphus like struggle because no matter how much you clean there is always more garbage.

Joe's Links:

• Twitter
• Joe's Beach Cleaning Book on Amazon
• Website
• Joe's Podcast

Links discussed:

• Joe's TEDx Talk
• Garret Hardin's "The Tragedy of the Commons"
• Albert Camus: The Myth of Sisyphus
• Ray Anderson: Don't Mow Your Lawn

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