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5. D&I: Being invited to dance, not just the party (feat. AJ Schinkelshoek)
D&I - understandably complex and sensitive, it's probably the least '5 minutes' topic you can get! 😬
So we did things a little differently this episode, focusing less on the audience questions and inviting an awesome guest star, the self-proclaimed DEIB advocate AJ (@Ard-Jan Schinkelshoek on LinkedIn).
Just some of the topics we discuss:
✨ Should D&I KPIs and quotas be a thing? Doesn't it risk 'positive discrimination'?
✨ D&I, DEI, DEIB - what's the difference? Why is 'Belonging' so significant?
✨ Do we really need to categorise people into separate 'boxes'? Isn't inclusivity about including everyone?
Chapters
0:39 Episode intro
1:01 About today's guest star
1:33 How to be a DEIB advocate (even if you're not a professional)
2:46 Why is D&I important? (Top 3 actually tangible reasons)
4:13 D&I, DEI, DEIB - what's the difference? Do we need all 4 letters?
5:19 What do we actually mean by an "inclusive" workplace?
6:15 Do we really need to put people in 'boxes'? Isn't inclusivity about including everyone?
9:01 The bigger inclusivity challenges for smaller start-ups and scale-ups
10:12 The diversity 'vending machine': change what you put in, to change what you get out
11:05 Lead by example: the impact of a genuinely engaged leader
11:44 Where to start if you're trying to change an established team needing more diversity
12:54 Building a diverse team from scratch
14:55 Are you focusing on D&I for the 'right' reasons?
16:10 Recruitment tips & tools for unbiased hiring
19:18 Should we have enforced D&I KPIs and quotas? What about positive discrimination?
22:42 Not just an HR topic - what is the HR team's role vs what individual employees can do
26:11 If you are the one struggling in a less inclusive workplace...
27:36 Hiring for D&I vs retention: consider the whole employee journey
30:12 Can you have inclusion without belonging?
31:12 Top practical tips: show the business case for DEIB
34:02 Final points of wisdom
Prefer your podcasts more visual? This episode is also on YouTube! Search "7people podcast"
About this podcast
Say hello to your favourite new HR podcast! 👋🏻 Join People & Culture professionals Flo & Paul from 7people as they dissect the weird, funny and strange topics they encounter in their day-to-day HR work. Each episode we'll focus on a variety of People-related topics and share our experiences, stories, tips and tricks, inspired by the many fascinating real-life "Have you got 5 minutes?" questions shared by our listeners.
Thank you to our friends at Personio for sponsoring this podcast.
About 7people
7people is a People and Culture consultancy based in Amsterdam. We're on a mission to create irresistible organizations, by providing practical and creative HR solutions for start-ups, scale-ups and innovative companies all across Europe (and beyond!).
For more cool HR insights, follow us on LinkedIn (@7people), Instagram (@7people_team) or subscribe to our monthly newsletter through our website (www.7people.team).
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By 7peopleD&I - understandably complex and sensitive, it's probably the least '5 minutes' topic you can get! 😬
So we did things a little differently this episode, focusing less on the audience questions and inviting an awesome guest star, the self-proclaimed DEIB advocate AJ (@Ard-Jan Schinkelshoek on LinkedIn).
Just some of the topics we discuss:
✨ Should D&I KPIs and quotas be a thing? Doesn't it risk 'positive discrimination'?
✨ D&I, DEI, DEIB - what's the difference? Why is 'Belonging' so significant?
✨ Do we really need to categorise people into separate 'boxes'? Isn't inclusivity about including everyone?
Chapters
0:39 Episode intro
1:01 About today's guest star
1:33 How to be a DEIB advocate (even if you're not a professional)
2:46 Why is D&I important? (Top 3 actually tangible reasons)
4:13 D&I, DEI, DEIB - what's the difference? Do we need all 4 letters?
5:19 What do we actually mean by an "inclusive" workplace?
6:15 Do we really need to put people in 'boxes'? Isn't inclusivity about including everyone?
9:01 The bigger inclusivity challenges for smaller start-ups and scale-ups
10:12 The diversity 'vending machine': change what you put in, to change what you get out
11:05 Lead by example: the impact of a genuinely engaged leader
11:44 Where to start if you're trying to change an established team needing more diversity
12:54 Building a diverse team from scratch
14:55 Are you focusing on D&I for the 'right' reasons?
16:10 Recruitment tips & tools for unbiased hiring
19:18 Should we have enforced D&I KPIs and quotas? What about positive discrimination?
22:42 Not just an HR topic - what is the HR team's role vs what individual employees can do
26:11 If you are the one struggling in a less inclusive workplace...
27:36 Hiring for D&I vs retention: consider the whole employee journey
30:12 Can you have inclusion without belonging?
31:12 Top practical tips: show the business case for DEIB
34:02 Final points of wisdom
Prefer your podcasts more visual? This episode is also on YouTube! Search "7people podcast"
About this podcast
Say hello to your favourite new HR podcast! 👋🏻 Join People & Culture professionals Flo & Paul from 7people as they dissect the weird, funny and strange topics they encounter in their day-to-day HR work. Each episode we'll focus on a variety of People-related topics and share our experiences, stories, tips and tricks, inspired by the many fascinating real-life "Have you got 5 minutes?" questions shared by our listeners.
Thank you to our friends at Personio for sponsoring this podcast.
About 7people
7people is a People and Culture consultancy based in Amsterdam. We're on a mission to create irresistible organizations, by providing practical and creative HR solutions for start-ups, scale-ups and innovative companies all across Europe (and beyond!).
For more cool HR insights, follow us on LinkedIn (@7people), Instagram (@7people_team) or subscribe to our monthly newsletter through our website (www.7people.team).