A voice from inside the system. This week, Luke and Jordan are joined by a guest who asks to be called “Tía”—a former military operative who claims to have worked inside one of the U.S. government’s most secretive black sites: Echo Ridge.

What begins as a conversation about surveillance and psychological warfare soon spirals into something far more disturbing: VR interrogation protocols, erasure of identity, and a torture system that leaves no physical trace.