In this guest episode, Matthew sits down with longtime friend Jon Kreutzweiser to explore what healthy male friendship actually looks like. Their relationship developed over many years but deepened during a difficult season when Matthew reached out for support while his late wife Jill was receiving treatment in Mexico. Together they discuss vulnerability, consistency, and why honest friendships among men take time to build but can become a powerful source of strength and growth.

00:02:00 How Matthew and Jon’s friendship first began
00:07:30 The moment in 2021 that changed their friendship
00:12:00 Jon’s longing for a deeper connection with other men
00:18:30 Why safe friendships allow real change to happen