In this fifth episode of the podcast, Eric continues his conversation with three time Norwegian champion GM Jonathan Tisdall. In the previous episode, Jon told us some great insider stories from the eighties and in this episode, Eric and Jon talk about the current state of affairs in the world of chess, the popularity of online chess, Chess960 and other variants. Jon also reveals who will be his favourite to win the Candidate Tournament in 2020 and his plans to write a new book.