How often do you look outside your own industry? Graham Jones does and it's a good way of making sure you don't fall behind. In this episode, Near-Futurist Guy Clapperton talks to him about how to keep up to date when your company employs thousands, whether the middle-aged are as Internet-savvy as they claim and why a 1960s boutique in Tooting is still up to date.

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