We have friend of the pod Michael B. on to discuss Amanda Petrusich's article for the New Yorker titled "Against Chill: Apathetic Music to Make Spreadsheets To", a fifteen dollar minimum wage, unsavory workplace experiences, pyramid schemes, and the liberation of Grimes.

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Music (in order of appearance):

"Data Link" - /body

"Lost in the Supermarket" - The Clash

"A Roomful of Memories and Longing" - Celestial Alignment

"Gaze" - Robin Guthrie & Harold Budd

"You Get What You Give" - The New Radicals