Kristen Boice is a licensed marriage and family therapist, Close The Chapter podcast host, a member of the American Association of Family and Marriage Therapy, American Counseling Association, and EMDR International Association, as well as a trained EMDR clinician. Her goal is to inspire us to get on the path of becoming more self-aware, taking ownership of our “stuff” and acknowledging the person we most want to be—so we can become them. Kristen brilliantly helps shed the shame that surrounds trauma recovery in this conversation with Nicole.