Episode #5 of the Misfit Faith podcast begins with a brief reflection on how the union of heaven and earth that we celebrate at Christmas has some pretty massive ramifications for how we relate to the world around us. I chat with author and church planter Peyton Jones about our former evangelical fear of all things secular, and then take a call about whether God and suffering can co-exist. I end with a rant about how the whole Israel thing just needs to stop.