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Today, we sat down with Andee and Tyler of Act.ion_plan on Instagram. They have spent two years on the road, and have gone through multiple RVs in the process. They started out after they sold their Montana ranch and hit the road in their horse trailer with living corridors. From there, they went through a few RVs until they finally found the right one. This episode is so full of valuable information that it's going to be tough to break it down to just three points here goes:
🕰️The importance of taking your time while traveling
🔨The proper tools every RV owner should have with them
☮️How to give yourself piece of mind while traveling
And much more!
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Music:
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/abbynoise/rocky-mountains
🔗LINKS:
Mudflap - Best Fuel Discounts for Truckers (mudflapinc.com)
Open Roads - Home (myopenroads.com)
RV Resorts in the US | RV Parks & RV Campgrounds | Thousand Trails RV Resorts
Camping Loyalty Program | KOA Rewards & Camping Discounts
Peplink - Unbreakable Connectivity - Peplink
TravlFi
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Starlink
🐶Pets
Govee - Making Your Life Smarter
Whistle GPS Pet Tracker and Activity Monitor for Pets | Whistle Store
🔨Tools
DeWalt Socket Set: https://amzn.to/3GS6lbv
Oscillating Tool: https://amzn.to/3RoFhWw
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Transcript:
all right Andee and Tyler thank you guys for coming on the show and joining hope and I today in this episode of the travel path podcast so we know you guys actually personally we met over the summer when you were passing through our home state of Mystic Connecticut you've been in your RV for almost two years now you've gone through a couple different RVs which we'll get into you're on Instagram as action plan act.ion_plan why don't we start by having you share a little bit about yourselves and then letting our audience know what your travel lifestyle looks like well we uh we move about once a week uh sometimes we stay at the Harvest House on the weekend uh I work full-time coastal regions typically um but we uh mostly go around and see the historic regions uh visit all the places there are to see we have two dogs chewy and mave when did you guys start actually uh our two-year Mark is January of next year well technically we started a little bit before that we had a a horse um trailer with living quarters that's what kind of promted all this so so the horse trailer is cool it was unique it was custom built by an aerospace engineer there's 40 of them it looked like an Airstream um I would say the horse trailer was easier to get into spots yeah um The Grand Design was definitely huge um the only problem with the horse trailer is it had very low clearance but then you had the whole back area for storage and it smelled like horses so there were those downsides to it the other problem with the horse trailer is the goose neck was very square at the front it had rounded corners but it was pretty Square um and so when you turned you didn't have much clearance and so we've we did the classic rookie mistake of shattering our back window that I think be uh every uh person fifth wheel person has to Endor at some point um and so after that we I got an extender for it that helped a little bit but we're like yeah we're going to move past this that's the thing with trailers is and RVs is is bigger is not necessarily better so Grand Design was newer but they have ups and downs I wouldn't say it was better than the horse Turing necessarily cu the bathroom was very small you pretty much got it do a 360 and that was your bathroom sounds like ours in our van yeah yeah probably maybe the size of van and then from that grand design it would it was to the tiffen the one you're currently in now no we had the Safari TR the one with the L on the back had extreme learning experience we weren't sure if we the class A and so we got I was like well instead of spending 100 200,000 on a new class A or whatever it was um we'll we'll get us something to see if we like it and then we'll get rid of it right away so we got a a real cheap a safari track this little tiny class we want it to be under 30 feet because that's what a lot of the spots it's easier to get into campgrounds at least in Florida under 30 ft um but yeah we spent three months on it doubled the money that we put into it and then we went on the road for a month and we're like yeah we we can't live in this Tyler had to drive the the motor home and I had to drive the truck and it was a big pain it ended up having things break every every couple every week almost and they were you know here's here's $1,000 there's $1,000 so we I was like Andee we we could get afford the payments on a brand new RV for what we're doing with this so it sounds like you guys definitely did your homework both before and then also in the process of while while you were trying to find the perfect RV for you guys um so it was a horse trailer you guys started out with which you probably learned if you could travel and enjoy your life in a horse trailer ultimately you would just enjoy it and want to do it and continue doing it so here you are now in your class hey motor home yeah so The Grand Design then you had the you called it Harvey Safari and then now you're in the uh the tiffen which is newer and that's working out for you guys right yes great awesome great I know last we spoke uh Tyler you had mentioning I know you're were working a ton um I think you were mentioning like 50 60 hour weeks back in the summertime is that something that fluctuates seasonally um or what does your work schedule look like and how do you balance travel and work yeah good question so I was a contractor um and I was working between 40 and 80 hours a week and so recently I switched over to employee and now I work 40 hours roughly how do I balance it I mean it takes a lot of self-control and restraint to be sitting in a cool place and have to work on your computer inside or outside usually I sit outside on the porch I actually got withdrawals problems when I switch from being a contractor to full-time I was like what do I do with my life I'm not working 60 or 80 hours this feels weird um so I went back I was like can you give me some contract work on the side I need to fill my addiction yeah it's fine what what we mostly do is I work during the week uh work you know that could be 8 to 12 hour day and then on the weekends is when we do the activities um when we're down south in Florida what I like to do is go out swimming over lunch nice so Andee while he's working what's uh what's like your day-to-day life in the RV like taking care of the dogs uh walking them sometimes taking them to the dog park doing the errands making calls for campgrounds planning the trips things like that as he does all that yeah so you do the Aon Runner almost definitely the trip planning that's big that's important that's one thing we learned in our road trip was you have to plan nowadays there's all sorts of reservations permits and there's not a lot of things you can do kind of on the Fly you do have to make reservations and plan especially during the touristy seasons in terms of actually when you were downsizing any tips you have for somebody who does have a lot of things they want to get rid of how did you end up deciding what to leave behind and what to take with you that is definitely one of the problems though as you start arving is is downsizing everything that you have you don't realize how much stuff you've accumulated you know something we con we have a rule right if we get something new in the RB we have to get rid of something now because we're at equilibrium that's a great point is that equilibrium um kind of mindset where once you have everything can pretty much fit and if you buy something else you have to get rid of something yeah yeah one of the best tips that I've heard to do and this takes a little bit more time it's not a quick thing to do but you put everything you don't think you need in a box or a tote and then you leave it for a month or two and if you don't need it in a month or two then you probably don't need it at all yeah we'll do that with clothing every season when we go to put away our winter clothes and get our summer clothes and vice versa if it's something I haven't worn in a year that whole season just there's no need for it despite how much she tries to make me hold on to it I we try and get rid of one thing that can help too is uh you know you often feel bad about getting rid of stuff so if you we do this thing where we say thank you for your service and then we throw it in the trash yes yep exactly was that from there was a TV was a um did you get that from a TV show I feel like we watched a TV show there was that girl oh no we just made it up I've heard that before like someone when they're getting rid they'll say thank you and then they'll get rid of it and makes them feel that's funny yeah there there is stuff where you say thank you I think thank you for your service is something we might have made up but yeah uh but there's the idea of thanking stuff for for the use that they provided you makes it Rel easier yeah so you guys have been on the road for quite some time now so what are some of the biggest frustrations your you know continuously or still experiencing why you're traveling stuff we're currently dealing with is medical it's very hard to find doctors it's hard to get into appointments especially for me when you're traveling full-time uh you know a lot of doctors want that established relationship which I mean over years you can do that but when you're in a spot for one year and uh you know if it's a new place for you it's hard to establish that relationship then often times they want to book you three or four months out like I'm only here for a week dude I need to get in right now well I have trouble because I have Montana Medicaid and it's only good in Montana I can't use it anywhere else I mean a lot of the problem is dealing with um State obligations TMV jury duty stuff like that the system's not really set up for traveling it's set up entirely for you to stay in one spot that's a good point I feel like that's a point that probably a lot of Travelers don't think about when they want to hit the road they probably the last thing on the list is how they're going to handle doctor's appointments and schedule visits and everything else um which it's tough to do a when you don't know how long you're going to be summer for and B when you don't know where you're going to be in three to four months do you have any tips on how you've been able to handle that make it a little bit easier we usually we'll fix a spot that we're going to be in so we'll say two months out we're we're going to be in Montana and then we go and we get all the appointments that we can done in that time then we also usually go from Montana Colorado because that's where my family lives and so sometimes we'll go then to the doctors in Colorado awesome guess we'll switch gears a little bit to some Financial part of traveling and I know we've gotten answers in the past it's tough to pinpoint you know roughly a monthly budget when you're traveling but you guys have been traveling when this comes out roughly two years now um do you have kind of a ballpark of how much you're spending monthly is there a high low average what does that look like yes so our budget is probably a little higher than the most we like to get out and enjoy the traveling our our idea is that we traveling we're going to make the most of it uh we're going to do things while we're traveling so our our budget is usually 6,000 that includes all of our payments that we have to make um for the truck and the RV and the and campgrounds and then going out um usually we're over that but that's what we try to stick to fuel and groceries food that's pretty consistent usually I mean you can not eat out as much we we tend to eat out a lot that's surprising I know a lot of we've heard at least in the past is the fuel is the one thing that tends to fluctuate a lot cuz people you know depending what ST there in it can be it can go almost double what it was in the prev state yeah so that's something we always do when we travel I always say Andee well we have a pretty long range we have a 100 gallon tank so we can go a thousand miles on both the the truck and the RV the RV's got or the truck's got a 33 Gall tank um and it gets good gas mileage so um we can usually go a th000 miles on both of those give or take maybe 800 um so usually what I we'll plan out where we're going to get fuel um and we try to keep it under $4 uh usually shoot for 370 right now at least um and Andee has this app called mud flap that will save you quite a bit of money for diesels it's only for diesel so you have to have a diesel and it'll find you truck stops which is nice CU we exclusively go to truck stops when we fill up you know it'll save you up to sometimes 50 cents per gallon or more sometimes a dollar so it's usually $100 or so that we save per fill up we I looked at that um I think it's called open roads um one but that one they want you to do like a whole like application and you name it off of it I'm like no that's too much work I'm like I'll stick with mud flp thanks that's got to be nice when you have 100 gallon tank I mean it's nice being able to drive so far before you have to fill up but once you get to the pump and you're filling up 100 gallons that's got to hurt right oh just a little bit expensive yeah what are you getting gas mileage wise when you're driving you have your class day motor home and you're towing a truck as well so the class A actually gets the same or better mileage when it pulls the truck it's weird it usually goes up when we're pulling the truck uh it gets um between eight and nine miles to the gallon um and then the truck gets depending on who driving I get 25 and Andee gets 27 to 29 on the truck uh we have an Eco diesel so it does pretty good it's nice because the truck and the motor home are both um diesel so we can fill up both so like we'll do it all on like one receipt typically sometimes so like we'll fill up the or the RV and then I'll hold the pump and he'll move up and then we'll fill up the truck yeah mud flap will only let you do one transaction so Andee sits there and holds it while I pull up and she fills up the track staying on the subject of Finance have there been any money-saving travel hacks you've learned while traveling um if you really want to save a lot of money the best way to do that is to stay at campgrounds monthly um usually monthly rates will be about half of what weekly or daily rates will be outrageous but um if you want to save a lot of money you probably need to stay monthly at places and then to maintain your own Vehicles instead of bringing them into shops oh yeah that that's another one is keeping up to on your maintenance uh might seem more expensive at the time but um when you broken down on the side of the road and you have to call a tow truck and then you got to get towed to some shop in the middle of nowhere that charges you double um stuff like that that really adds up quick that's usually when we get over our budget is when we have unexpected expenses like that um and then taking your time and when you have problems and thinking it through methodically uh fixing it instead of making decisions in haste and having mistakes be made um that's usually you can get in a lot of trouble we we ended up busting our Jack because I knew I needed to put a board down because it was in the mud but was just too tired and exhausted and I just put it down anyway so that was $1,000 right there to fix the Jack so stuff like that being being cautious planning things out um and not not just quickly doing stuff stuff like the truck right when we broke the back window when we travel now we're very slow you know traveling takes time and so that's what I always remind myself we're here to to go slow we always say a prayer before our travels and when you run into an issue on the road um just go slow traffic turning around whatever it is don't don't just oh I don't want to unhook the truck because I have a tight turn unhook the truck because you know paying for a new toe bar is going to be a th bucks or whatever it is right and it's just it's not worth it that's how you can quickly blow your budget sure yeah that's really good so can you just the um you have a KOA membership right and what does that actually get you they've changed their um Logistics now but um you become a VIP member you can pretty much cancel up until the day before or I think until like check-in time when that's like 2:00 or something um and then you get points for the stays and you get 10% off so you can you get 10% off like the daily rate or whatever put one's night's deposit down with them which is super nice and then you get 10% % off either the daily rate or the total so you're essentially saving money on that and then um you can accumulate points so like we have about 50,000 points which is good for $250 certificates so we essentially have two free nights with them and that's any KOA probably the biggest savings though is when you have to cancel or reschedule because they don't charge you a fee yeah we we constantly change our plans on a regular basis and so um we always check the the rules for what the refund is because some campgrounds will charge you and one night sometimes it's the full stay having a campground that doesn't charge you or has a very low cancellation Fe is is important to us yeah these three different types of koas there's Journey there's Resort and holiday and they all are known for something different so like the resort style so we're actually at Resort style now they have a lot more like activities and amenities and then I think it's holiday is more for like the one or two nighters and then the journeys are like for like longterm or I can't remember it's vice versa but um they're super nice and last night we actually signed up for Passport America um which is 50% off stays um for like 1,200 campgrounds oh wow so that's a good tip and they're pretty wide KO I mean I feel like I remember seeing them periodically have you come run into problems where you haven't been able to find them do you plan around where they are at the KOA that we're at has a whole map of where they are in the United States it's there's more koas than I expected there's a lot of koas near destinations so if you're going into a major area usually it'll be one there all right Switching gears a little bit I know we talked about this a little bit Tyler when we grabbed lunch and Mystic a while back but internet service I know know you've gone through the ringer a few times there's some frustrations you've gone back and forth between a couple different providers um or some of those frustrations and what do you use for internet now I've had all sorts of hotspots and modems for me internet is crucial I do a lot of um video calls not just internet but low latency internet because of my video calls so it's not just downloading things it's having reliability um for the calls and so I've done I've had a lot of different solutions for that right now we have um a hot spot for each carrier so T-Mobile AT&T and Verizon um that's typically what we use I have a 5G modem that we uh use and then they have a pep link that um does the AT&T which is a 4G um link and then uh I have several redundant systems too um we have travel f 2 which is great because you can add data as needed and'll choose what provider you need it it really depends on the area we tried Starling for a little bit didn't it didn't match my needs it cut out a little bit and it was also hard to set up so it wasn't hard but it took too much time we're all about reducing the amount of time it takes us uh when we set up and leave um we want it under 15 minutes so right now we're down to about 10 yeah usually typically we we search for the cell service in the area um if there's good cell service it's just up and running all my routers are up in this cabinet up here um if not then I'll go and and look at where the cell towers are and then position it to look at the closest cell tower and usually that does the trick so sounds like you have a couple different Hotpot plans whichever has kind of the strongest signal you'll you'll plug in there and then you'll point the antenna wherever the cell tower is and traveli I have that written down as well as and I'll just mention the other apps mud flap 1 th000 Trails I'll link all the resources in the show notes so people can go check that out but okay so it is possible to stream you're doing video conference calls pretty much it's part of your job and you're able to get data to do that so that's good to know we just bought a bunch of movies from Goodwill for cheap so that we don't have to stream on Netflix anymore so we have about 150 movies from Goodwill uh and if you do that they're about a buck or two if you get them on sale like your your equilibrium rule right every time you buy one you got to get rid of one right after you watch it that's right I know we touched on you guys travel with not one dog but two dogs what would you say to somebody who says they cannot travel and set up a lifestyle like you have because they have pets we said that pets aren't that hard um they walk them you feed them yeah you just them a couple days you got to feed them for their safety I mean that's pretty critical yeah um we have gooy monit temperature monitors and since we always have internet um so you purchase those and they go over the Wi-Fi and then we we uh will check the temperature in the RV um we um we have cameras that we check on them with um and then um we we never we us we always make sure the AC's on and we usually don't leave the heat on when we're gone what brand temperature monitor because we got one a while back and I couldn't get it to work properly but do you have a recommendation for one yeah they're they're gooy or gobby you pronounce it I pronounce It gooy Go o v uh I love those things we have all sorts of their products um they have uh lights that we have in the bedroom we have a uh heaters couple heaters that we use from time to time when uh when it's cold out we have a a smart Kettle um so we we really like the gooby brand um getting an air purifier from them they had really good Black Friday deals there're usually half off so right now you can get the sensors to two pack for 30 bucks usually they're 60 or 70 but yeah we use those to monitor it's it's a one-time fee and some of these other monitors you got to pay a monthly fee which uh we started out with waggle and they want 20 bucks a month and that's a little bit too much for us all all the kway campgrounds I imagine have been pet friendly they actually a lot of the koas they have it's they call it Camp K9 and it's just their little dog park the little dog runs they're not big but it kind of like does what for like the dogs just to run around and get their Zoomies out for the night or something we take the dogs to the dog parks right now there's the K9 Co going around so we haven't been taking them out when we're near National Forest we'll usually take them in the national forest and let them run around and then chewy has a whistle on we need to get one for mave uh but it does activity monitoring which is cool it's not the biggest feature but it has GPS and it connects to Cellular um and it has a reasonable battery uh when it's connected to Wi-Fi so um it'll alert us if he ever leaves for whatever reason we had some problems when we were boondocking up in Montana where you made a friend um and ran off and so um now we we have that as a precaution that's six bucks a month or something like that the other nice thing about that is um they have a a Telly vet um where you can message the vet for any issues you have and it's completely free and we've used that several times well worth the six bucks a month or whatever it is just for that service too yeah it's kind of like a Fitbit Apple watch but for dogs it tricks eating sleeping drinking water scratching licking and then it actually so like when he ran off after we got the whistle for him um it shows every stop he went to it's good peace of mind because when we before that we were searching all over the place and we're like oh he's that way let's go over there and then you can see him getting closer to you as he's calling him one thing we've learned traveling is peace of mind you can't buy you can't buy Peace of Mind anything you can do to improve your peace of mind is worth it and so having precautions like this while you're traveling is is worth it whether it's for your dogs for your trailer for your car um having peace of mind is certainly helpful what is the most memorable experience you guys have had while traveling uh meeting the followers like randomly like meeting you guys was like totally random like unbeknown like Mystic was your home base and like there's times that like we've crossed paths with people and not knowing like that they were going to be there too like we went we at a Thousand Trails and there's a few other people that we follow there as well and we're like oh you're here too what so I've really gotten into the history of the United States and colonies and all that so I really enjoy going and looking at the at the various uh Colonial towns and and seeing the the progression of our of our country because as you start on the East Coast you get much older towns and adding on to that is various cultural regions so it's kind of fun as you travel right Texas is completely different from Louisiana is different from Florida is different from Virginia which is different from Maine so as you travel all these various regions you can see the the influence of various cultures um that have formed our our nation and that's been uh very fun to see as we travel it is neat yeah and like you said it's just that community of Travelers you meet get introduced to and you share stories and I remember Tyler talking to you when you were in our town and you had brought up like the whole the stone walls we have in New England and it's something you know growing up we' see stone walls everywhere when you're living there you don't really appreciate it because you see it all the time but from an outsider looking in you brought the point up like who did all these stone walls and looking back and it was all farmland and things like that but it's something you don't see you know when you're out west or down south and um yeah at some point somebody laid all that stone wall a long time ago the New England ston walls yeah that was an interesting one yeah all all all of your country is Glacier right so you have all these Stones uh that have settled there and the farmers they would uh they would pick these Stones up yearly and uh every year they'd come back after the snow and the rain and so they they build these stone walls from them if you got a bunch of stones when life gives you Stones build stone walls um and so that's why you guys have a bunch of stone walls there and and looking into that was fascinating you guys have been in your RV for almost 2 years what's something you've learned you can or can't live without I don't know it's just it's tough what is there to that's hard to live without I mean once you've done it and you've you've broken all these ties I mean it it's difficult to say that we absolutely need something that's say You' just discovered that you can be minist and you don't need everything that you need in a traditional home you you're happy the small square footage that you have yeah you don't need very many things to survive um I think one thing we take a lot for granted or that we really appreciate are grateful for is the reliability of our rigs um having having the RV that's very reliable and the truck that's very reliable um and then just the Necessities I mean water food we like our dogs I mean there's really there's not much that you need you know what I've what I've learned is you don't need very many things except for tools um having tools whether that's work tools electric tools tools for your daily life that could be your computer your internet I mean those are really the things that you want to keep around have there been speaking of tools have there been tools I imagine like a socket set drills um certain tools that you definitely would recommend any RV have on them yeah definitely the socket set when we had the Grand Design instantly yeah um we have this little DeWalt socket set that's about that big um it's got you know six or four through 12 mm sockets English metric uh and then it has a screwdriver that has a multi- tip that you can change out and then um a little ratchet and we use that constantly we keep it inside so we have our little tools inside that's like a little screwdriver most of the stuff inside is screwdrivers um inside and then outside we have the whole tool Bay which has um the bake socket set um it's got a lot of electrical tape crimping tools for electronics wires those we use those a lot we have drills and stuff lights lights can be useful a lot of the time um gloves I don't think you can have too many tools I mean power tools that you might not need as many of those we we keep a sawsa and well or is it one of those multi oscillating tools we have a big light we have a the drills we use pretty regularly I mean a lot of the stuff in your RV is electrical um being able to fix the electrical um we have cocking cocking gets used a lot uh we keep a hammer that we occasionally use oh um CR and wrenches those are pretty important you got to be hAndee if you have an armv or you're gonna you're G you're gonna spend a lot of time at the repair shops yeah or go on YouTube yeah definitely how to research it couple more questions before we wrap up here guys if you could have listened to this podcast before you started out what is one question you would have asked and how would you answer that now biggest thing is um that we struggled with for a long time is how do you choose the right RV for your lifestyle and that really depends on what you're doing whether you're a weekend warrior you're going on weekl long trips or you're consistent traveler um are you going to be doing full hookups or boondocking are you going to be going off-road Go state parks or Resorts and so the best advice that I've seen there is um motor homes are for traveling travel trail travel trailers are for the Destin ation so you take travel trailers you park them somewhere and you leave them whether that's for a month or for 6 months and motor homes are more for traveling full-time you're driving a lot um and then from there you know what size do you need do you need it to be able to go off road are you going to be going off on small roads with little Bridges how tall is it or do you want a bumper pull if you're going to be staying in places for a long time do you need to be able to access everything when the slides are in that was something we learned the hard way is that yes we want to be able to access everything in RV when the slides are in at least all the critical parts that's something that took us a long time several iterations of of RVs and lots of looking to find the right one for us especially like T we said like with the slides being in like we can get to the fridge we can use the restroom we can get to the bedroom I can get to most of the covered spaces when the slides are in which is super nice motor homes are for traveling travel trailers are for Destination that's a good rule to live I have not heard that before but that's that's a nice way to put it anyone listening right now who wants to start making the way towards a travel lifestyle what would be one thing they could start doing today yeah so what I would do is start planning out where do you want to go what do you want to do when you get there um I mean that'll that'll do a couple things for you it give you a dream and motivation um to get towards that dream and help you plan out the equipment that you need um right because you got to you got to have your plan first uh what you want to do and then you you find the tools that you need to get there so motor home's a tool and so if you if you have your end goal in mind that'll that'll give you something to do uh start a dream what's that called the vision board nice yeah you're AC right yep do one thing at a time too don't do it all at once right how to you eat an elevant you eat it one bite at a time that's it yeah were there any YouTube channels or other influencers that you were watching when you were in that kind of that vision board goal setting phase of your life that motivated you oh I follow a lot of follow uh face group Facebook groups I'm the Tiffin Facebook groups um I follow a few I found that the the intro RV groups aren't that great but if you can find like one that's specific to your travel trailer that can be very helpful um a lot of the problems that we deal with I I find on Facebook and then I add them to my folder and then we've like the squirrel cage went out so I knew exactly how to fix that it was this horrendous noise that was going on if I hadn't seen that on Facebook I have no idea what that was um so i i pen all that stuff um and then you know that they teach you destinations or if you have issues you can post on it um that's that's a really good one for your specific um and while my audience is checking out those pages where can I find out more about you so glad you asked you can follow us on on Instagram and uh action plan that's a
_ plan act. andore plan all right action plan andian Tyler thank you guys for coming on the show you learned a lot about just um you know have coming up with the plans living on the road I have all sorts of notes here so make sure to link those um thank you guys for coming on thank you
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IG: Andee/Tyler (@act.ion_plan) • Instagram photos and videos
Today, we sat down with Andee and Tyler of Act.ion_plan on Instagram. They have spent two years on the road, and have gone through multiple RVs in the process. They started out after they sold their Montana ranch and hit the road in their horse trailer with living corridors. From there, they went through a few RVs until they finally found the right one. This episode is so full of valuable information that it's going to be tough to break it down to just three points here goes:
🕰️The importance of taking your time while traveling
🔨The proper tools every RV owner should have with them
☮️How to give yourself piece of mind while traveling
And much more!
Thanks for listening, be sure to leave a review and share if you found any value!
Music:
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/abbynoise/rocky-mountains
🔗LINKS:
Mudflap - Best Fuel Discounts for Truckers (mudflapinc.com)
Open Roads - Home (myopenroads.com)
RV Resorts in the US | RV Parks & RV Campgrounds | Thousand Trails RV Resorts
Camping Loyalty Program | KOA Rewards & Camping Discounts
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all right Andee and Tyler thank you guys for coming on the show and joining hope and I today in this episode of the travel path podcast so we know you guys actually personally we met over the summer when you were passing through our home state of Mystic Connecticut you've been in your RV for almost two years now you've gone through a couple different RVs which we'll get into you're on Instagram as action plan act.ion_plan why don't we start by having you share a little bit about yourselves and then letting our audience know what your travel lifestyle looks like well we uh we move about once a week uh sometimes we stay at the Harvest House on the weekend uh I work full-time coastal regions typically um but we uh mostly go around and see the historic regions uh visit all the places there are to see we have two dogs chewy and mave when did you guys start actually uh our two-year Mark is January of next year well technically we started a little bit before that we had a a horse um trailer with living quarters that's what kind of promted all this so so the horse trailer is cool it was unique it was custom built by an aerospace engineer there's 40 of them it looked like an Airstream um I would say the horse trailer was easier to get into spots yeah um The Grand Design was definitely huge um the only problem with the horse trailer is it had very low clearance but then you had the whole back area for storage and it smelled like horses so there were those downsides to it the other problem with the horse trailer is the goose neck was very square at the front it had rounded corners but it was pretty Square um and so when you turned you didn't have much clearance and so we've we did the classic rookie mistake of shattering our back window that I think be uh every uh person fifth wheel person has to Endor at some point um and so after that we I got an extender for it that helped a little bit but we're like yeah we're going to move past this that's the thing with trailers is and RVs is is bigger is not necessarily better so Grand Design was newer but they have ups and downs I wouldn't say it was better than the horse Turing necessarily cu the bathroom was very small you pretty much got it do a 360 and that was your bathroom sounds like ours in our van yeah yeah probably maybe the size of van and then from that grand design it would it was to the tiffen the one you're currently in now no we had the Safari TR the one with the L on the back had extreme learning experience we weren't sure if we the class A and so we got I was like well instead of spending 100 200,000 on a new class A or whatever it was um we'll we'll get us something to see if we like it and then we'll get rid of it right away so we got a a real cheap a safari track this little tiny class we want it to be under 30 feet because that's what a lot of the spots it's easier to get into campgrounds at least in Florida under 30 ft um but yeah we spent three months on it doubled the money that we put into it and then we went on the road for a month and we're like yeah we we can't live in this Tyler had to drive the the motor home and I had to drive the truck and it was a big pain it ended up having things break every every couple every week almost and they were you know here's here's $1,000 there's $1,000 so we I was like Andee we we could get afford the payments on a brand new RV for what we're doing with this so it sounds like you guys definitely did your homework both before and then also in the process of while while you were trying to find the perfect RV for you guys um so it was a horse trailer you guys started out with which you probably learned if you could travel and enjoy your life in a horse trailer ultimately you would just enjoy it and want to do it and continue doing it so here you are now in your class hey motor home yeah so The Grand Design then you had the you called it Harvey Safari and then now you're in the uh the tiffen which is newer and that's working out for you guys right yes great awesome great I know last we spoke uh Tyler you had mentioning I know you're were working a ton um I think you were mentioning like 50 60 hour weeks back in the summertime is that something that fluctuates seasonally um or what does your work schedule look like and how do you balance travel and work yeah good question so I was a contractor um and I was working between 40 and 80 hours a week and so recently I switched over to employee and now I work 40 hours roughly how do I balance it I mean it takes a lot of self-control and restraint to be sitting in a cool place and have to work on your computer inside or outside usually I sit outside on the porch I actually got withdrawals problems when I switch from being a contractor to full-time I was like what do I do with my life I'm not working 60 or 80 hours this feels weird um so I went back I was like can you give me some contract work on the side I need to fill my addiction yeah it's fine what what we mostly do is I work during the week uh work you know that could be 8 to 12 hour day and then on the weekends is when we do the activities um when we're down south in Florida what I like to do is go out swimming over lunch nice so Andee while he's working what's uh what's like your day-to-day life in the RV like taking care of the dogs uh walking them sometimes taking them to the dog park doing the errands making calls for campgrounds planning the trips things like that as he does all that yeah so you do the Aon Runner almost definitely the trip planning that's big that's important that's one thing we learned in our road trip was you have to plan nowadays there's all sorts of reservations permits and there's not a lot of things you can do kind of on the Fly you do have to make reservations and plan especially during the touristy seasons in terms of actually when you were downsizing any tips you have for somebody who does have a lot of things they want to get rid of how did you end up deciding what to leave behind and what to take with you that is definitely one of the problems though as you start arving is is downsizing everything that you have you don't realize how much stuff you've accumulated you know something we con we have a rule right if we get something new in the RB we have to get rid of something now because we're at equilibrium that's a great point is that equilibrium um kind of mindset where once you have everything can pretty much fit and if you buy something else you have to get rid of something yeah yeah one of the best tips that I've heard to do and this takes a little bit more time it's not a quick thing to do but you put everything you don't think you need in a box or a tote and then you leave it for a month or two and if you don't need it in a month or two then you probably don't need it at all yeah we'll do that with clothing every season when we go to put away our winter clothes and get our summer clothes and vice versa if it's something I haven't worn in a year that whole season just there's no need for it despite how much she tries to make me hold on to it I we try and get rid of one thing that can help too is uh you know you often feel bad about getting rid of stuff so if you we do this thing where we say thank you for your service and then we throw it in the trash yes yep exactly was that from there was a TV was a um did you get that from a TV show I feel like we watched a TV show there was that girl oh no we just made it up I've heard that before like someone when they're getting rid they'll say thank you and then they'll get rid of it and makes them feel that's funny yeah there there is stuff where you say thank you I think thank you for your service is something we might have made up but yeah uh but there's the idea of thanking stuff for for the use that they provided you makes it Rel easier yeah so you guys have been on the road for quite some time now so what are some of the biggest frustrations your you know continuously or still experiencing why you're traveling stuff we're currently dealing with is medical it's very hard to find doctors it's hard to get into appointments especially for me when you're traveling full-time uh you know a lot of doctors want that established relationship which I mean over years you can do that but when you're in a spot for one year and uh you know if it's a new place for you it's hard to establish that relationship then often times they want to book you three or four months out like I'm only here for a week dude I need to get in right now well I have trouble because I have Montana Medicaid and it's only good in Montana I can't use it anywhere else I mean a lot of the problem is dealing with um State obligations TMV jury duty stuff like that the system's not really set up for traveling it's set up entirely for you to stay in one spot that's a good point I feel like that's a point that probably a lot of Travelers don't think about when they want to hit the road they probably the last thing on the list is how they're going to handle doctor's appointments and schedule visits and everything else um which it's tough to do a when you don't know how long you're going to be summer for and B when you don't know where you're going to be in three to four months do you have any tips on how you've been able to handle that make it a little bit easier we usually we'll fix a spot that we're going to be in so we'll say two months out we're we're going to be in Montana and then we go and we get all the appointments that we can done in that time then we also usually go from Montana Colorado because that's where my family lives and so sometimes we'll go then to the doctors in Colorado awesome guess we'll switch gears a little bit to some Financial part of traveling and I know we've gotten answers in the past it's tough to pinpoint you know roughly a monthly budget when you're traveling but you guys have been traveling when this comes out roughly two years now um do you have kind of a ballpark of how much you're spending monthly is there a high low average what does that look like yes so our budget is probably a little higher than the most we like to get out and enjoy the traveling our our idea is that we traveling we're going to make the most of it uh we're going to do things while we're traveling so our our budget is usually 6,000 that includes all of our payments that we have to make um for the truck and the RV and the and campgrounds and then going out um usually we're over that but that's what we try to stick to fuel and groceries food that's pretty consistent usually I mean you can not eat out as much we we tend to eat out a lot that's surprising I know a lot of we've heard at least in the past is the fuel is the one thing that tends to fluctuate a lot cuz people you know depending what ST there in it can be it can go almost double what it was in the prev state yeah so that's something we always do when we travel I always say Andee well we have a pretty long range we have a 100 gallon tank so we can go a thousand miles on both the the truck and the RV the RV's got or the truck's got a 33 Gall tank um and it gets good gas mileage so um we can usually go a th000 miles on both of those give or take maybe 800 um so usually what I we'll plan out where we're going to get fuel um and we try to keep it under $4 uh usually shoot for 370 right now at least um and Andee has this app called mud flap that will save you quite a bit of money for diesels it's only for diesel so you have to have a diesel and it'll find you truck stops which is nice CU we exclusively go to truck stops when we fill up you know it'll save you up to sometimes 50 cents per gallon or more sometimes a dollar so it's usually $100 or so that we save per fill up we I looked at that um I think it's called open roads um one but that one they want you to do like a whole like application and you name it off of it I'm like no that's too much work I'm like I'll stick with mud flp thanks that's got to be nice when you have 100 gallon tank I mean it's nice being able to drive so far before you have to fill up but once you get to the pump and you're filling up 100 gallons that's got to hurt right oh just a little bit expensive yeah what are you getting gas mileage wise when you're driving you have your class day motor home and you're towing a truck as well so the class A actually gets the same or better mileage when it pulls the truck it's weird it usually goes up when we're pulling the truck uh it gets um between eight and nine miles to the gallon um and then the truck gets depending on who driving I get 25 and Andee gets 27 to 29 on the truck uh we have an Eco diesel so it does pretty good it's nice because the truck and the motor home are both um diesel so we can fill up both so like we'll do it all on like one receipt typically sometimes so like we'll fill up the or the RV and then I'll hold the pump and he'll move up and then we'll fill up the truck yeah mud flap will only let you do one transaction so Andee sits there and holds it while I pull up and she fills up the track staying on the subject of Finance have there been any money-saving travel hacks you've learned while traveling um if you really want to save a lot of money the best way to do that is to stay at campgrounds monthly um usually monthly rates will be about half of what weekly or daily rates will be outrageous but um if you want to save a lot of money you probably need to stay monthly at places and then to maintain your own Vehicles instead of bringing them into shops oh yeah that that's another one is keeping up to on your maintenance uh might seem more expensive at the time but um when you broken down on the side of the road and you have to call a tow truck and then you got to get towed to some shop in the middle of nowhere that charges you double um stuff like that that really adds up quick that's usually when we get over our budget is when we have unexpected expenses like that um and then taking your time and when you have problems and thinking it through methodically uh fixing it instead of making decisions in haste and having mistakes be made um that's usually you can get in a lot of trouble we we ended up busting our Jack because I knew I needed to put a board down because it was in the mud but was just too tired and exhausted and I just put it down anyway so that was $1,000 right there to fix the Jack so stuff like that being being cautious planning things out um and not not just quickly doing stuff stuff like the truck right when we broke the back window when we travel now we're very slow you know traveling takes time and so that's what I always remind myself we're here to to go slow we always say a prayer before our travels and when you run into an issue on the road um just go slow traffic turning around whatever it is don't don't just oh I don't want to unhook the truck because I have a tight turn unhook the truck because you know paying for a new toe bar is going to be a th bucks or whatever it is right and it's just it's not worth it that's how you can quickly blow your budget sure yeah that's really good so can you just the um you have a KOA membership right and what does that actually get you they've changed their um Logistics now but um you become a VIP member you can pretty much cancel up until the day before or I think until like check-in time when that's like 2:00 or something um and then you get points for the stays and you get 10% off so you can you get 10% off like the daily rate or whatever put one's night's deposit down with them which is super nice and then you get 10% % off either the daily rate or the total so you're essentially saving money on that and then um you can accumulate points so like we have about 50,000 points which is good for $250 certificates so we essentially have two free nights with them and that's any KOA probably the biggest savings though is when you have to cancel or reschedule because they don't charge you a fee yeah we we constantly change our plans on a regular basis and so um we always check the the rules for what the refund is because some campgrounds will charge you and one night sometimes it's the full stay having a campground that doesn't charge you or has a very low cancellation Fe is is important to us yeah these three different types of koas there's Journey there's Resort and holiday and they all are known for something different so like the resort style so we're actually at Resort style now they have a lot more like activities and amenities and then I think it's holiday is more for like the one or two nighters and then the journeys are like for like longterm or I can't remember it's vice versa but um they're super nice and last night we actually signed up for Passport America um which is 50% off stays um for like 1,200 campgrounds oh wow so that's a good tip and they're pretty wide KO I mean I feel like I remember seeing them periodically have you come run into problems where you haven't been able to find them do you plan around where they are at the KOA that we're at has a whole map of where they are in the United States it's there's more koas than I expected there's a lot of koas near destinations so if you're going into a major area usually it'll be one there all right Switching gears a little bit I know we talked about this a little bit Tyler when we grabbed lunch and Mystic a while back but internet service I know know you've gone through the ringer a few times there's some frustrations you've gone back and forth between a couple different providers um or some of those frustrations and what do you use for internet now I've had all sorts of hotspots and modems for me internet is crucial I do a lot of um video calls not just internet but low latency internet because of my video calls so it's not just downloading things it's having reliability um for the calls and so I've done I've had a lot of different solutions for that right now we have um a hot spot for each carrier so T-Mobile AT&T and Verizon um that's typically what we use I have a 5G modem that we uh use and then they have a pep link that um does the AT&T which is a 4G um link and then uh I have several redundant systems too um we have travel f 2 which is great because you can add data as needed and'll choose what provider you need it it really depends on the area we tried Starling for a little bit didn't it didn't match my needs it cut out a little bit and it was also hard to set up so it wasn't hard but it took too much time we're all about reducing the amount of time it takes us uh when we set up and leave um we want it under 15 minutes so right now we're down to about 10 yeah usually typically we we search for the cell service in the area um if there's good cell service it's just up and running all my routers are up in this cabinet up here um if not then I'll go and and look at where the cell towers are and then position it to look at the closest cell tower and usually that does the trick so sounds like you have a couple different Hotpot plans whichever has kind of the strongest signal you'll you'll plug in there and then you'll point the antenna wherever the cell tower is and traveli I have that written down as well as and I'll just mention the other apps mud flap 1 th000 Trails I'll link all the resources in the show notes so people can go check that out but okay so it is possible to stream you're doing video conference calls pretty much it's part of your job and you're able to get data to do that so that's good to know we just bought a bunch of movies from Goodwill for cheap so that we don't have to stream on Netflix anymore so we have about 150 movies from Goodwill uh and if you do that they're about a buck or two if you get them on sale like your your equilibrium rule right every time you buy one you got to get rid of one right after you watch it that's right I know we touched on you guys travel with not one dog but two dogs what would you say to somebody who says they cannot travel and set up a lifestyle like you have because they have pets we said that pets aren't that hard um they walk them you feed them yeah you just them a couple days you got to feed them for their safety I mean that's pretty critical yeah um we have gooy monit temperature monitors and since we always have internet um so you purchase those and they go over the Wi-Fi and then we we uh will check the temperature in the RV um we um we have cameras that we check on them with um and then um we we never we us we always make sure the AC's on and we usually don't leave the heat on when we're gone what brand temperature monitor because we got one a while back and I couldn't get it to work properly but do you have a recommendation for one yeah they're they're gooy or gobby you pronounce it I pronounce It gooy Go o v uh I love those things we have all sorts of their products um they have uh lights that we have in the bedroom we have a uh heaters couple heaters that we use from time to time when uh when it's cold out we have a a smart Kettle um so we we really like the gooby brand um getting an air purifier from them they had really good Black Friday deals there're usually half off so right now you can get the sensors to two pack for 30 bucks usually they're 60 or 70 but yeah we use those to monitor it's it's a one-time fee and some of these other monitors you got to pay a monthly fee which uh we started out with waggle and they want 20 bucks a month and that's a little bit too much for us all all the kway campgrounds I imagine have been pet friendly they actually a lot of the koas they have it's they call it Camp K9 and it's just their little dog park the little dog runs they're not big but it kind of like does what for like the dogs just to run around and get their Zoomies out for the night or something we take the dogs to the dog parks right now there's the K9 Co going around so we haven't been taking them out when we're near National Forest we'll usually take them in the national forest and let them run around and then chewy has a whistle on we need to get one for mave uh but it does activity monitoring which is cool it's not the biggest feature but it has GPS and it connects to Cellular um and it has a reasonable battery uh when it's connected to Wi-Fi so um it'll alert us if he ever leaves for whatever reason we had some problems when we were boondocking up in Montana where you made a friend um and ran off and so um now we we have that as a precaution that's six bucks a month or something like that the other nice thing about that is um they have a a Telly vet um where you can message the vet for any issues you have and it's completely free and we've used that several times well worth the six bucks a month or whatever it is just for that service too yeah it's kind of like a Fitbit Apple watch but for dogs it tricks eating sleeping drinking water scratching licking and then it actually so like when he ran off after we got the whistle for him um it shows every stop he went to it's good peace of mind because when we before that we were searching all over the place and we're like oh he's that way let's go over there and then you can see him getting closer to you as he's calling him one thing we've learned traveling is peace of mind you can't buy you can't buy Peace of Mind anything you can do to improve your peace of mind is worth it and so having precautions like this while you're traveling is is worth it whether it's for your dogs for your trailer for your car um having peace of mind is certainly helpful what is the most memorable experience you guys have had while traveling uh meeting the followers like randomly like meeting you guys was like totally random like unbeknown like Mystic was your home base and like there's times that like we've crossed paths with people and not knowing like that they were going to be there too like we went we at a Thousand Trails and there's a few other people that we follow there as well and we're like oh you're here too what so I've really gotten into the history of the United States and colonies and all that so I really enjoy going and looking at the at the various uh Colonial towns and and seeing the the progression of our of our country because as you start on the East Coast you get much older towns and adding on to that is various cultural regions so it's kind of fun as you travel right Texas is completely different from Louisiana is different from Florida is different from Virginia which is different from Maine so as you travel all these various regions you can see the the influence of various cultures um that have formed our our nation and that's been uh very fun to see as we travel it is neat yeah and like you said it's just that community of Travelers you meet get introduced to and you share stories and I remember Tyler talking to you when you were in our town and you had brought up like the whole the stone walls we have in New England and it's something you know growing up we' see stone walls everywhere when you're living there you don't really appreciate it because you see it all the time but from an outsider looking in you brought the point up like who did all these stone walls and looking back and it was all farmland and things like that but it's something you don't see you know when you're out west or down south and um yeah at some point somebody laid all that stone wall a long time ago the New England ston walls yeah that was an interesting one yeah all all all of your country is Glacier right so you have all these Stones uh that have settled there and the farmers they would uh they would pick these Stones up yearly and uh every year they'd come back after the snow and the rain and so they they build these stone walls from them if you got a bunch of stones when life gives you Stones build stone walls um and so that's why you guys have a bunch of stone walls there and and looking into that was fascinating you guys have been in your RV for almost 2 years what's something you've learned you can or can't live without I don't know it's just it's tough what is there to that's hard to live without I mean once you've done it and you've you've broken all these ties I mean it it's difficult to say that we absolutely need something that's say You' just discovered that you can be minist and you don't need everything that you need in a traditional home you you're happy the small square footage that you have yeah you don't need very many things to survive um I think one thing we take a lot for granted or that we really appreciate are grateful for is the reliability of our rigs um having having the RV that's very reliable and the truck that's very reliable um and then just the Necessities I mean water food we like our dogs I mean there's really there's not much that you need you know what I've what I've learned is you don't need very many things except for tools um having tools whether that's work tools electric tools tools for your daily life that could be your computer your internet I mean those are really the things that you want to keep around have there been speaking of tools have there been tools I imagine like a socket set drills um certain tools that you definitely would recommend any RV have on them yeah definitely the socket set when we had the Grand Design instantly yeah um we have this little DeWalt socket set that's about that big um it's got you know six or four through 12 mm sockets English metric uh and then it has a screwdriver that has a multi- tip that you can change out and then um a little ratchet and we use that constantly we keep it inside so we have our little tools inside that's like a little screwdriver most of the stuff inside is screwdrivers um inside and then outside we have the whole tool Bay which has um the bake socket set um it's got a lot of electrical tape crimping tools for electronics wires those we use those a lot we have drills and stuff lights lights can be useful a lot of the time um gloves I don't think you can have too many tools I mean power tools that you might not need as many of those we we keep a sawsa and well or is it one of those multi oscillating tools we have a big light we have a the drills we use pretty regularly I mean a lot of the stuff in your RV is electrical um being able to fix the electrical um we have cocking cocking gets used a lot uh we keep a hammer that we occasionally use oh um CR and wrenches those are pretty important you got to be hAndee if you have an armv or you're gonna you're G you're gonna spend a lot of time at the repair shops yeah or go on YouTube yeah definitely how to research it couple more questions before we wrap up here guys if you could have listened to this podcast before you started out what is one question you would have asked and how would you answer that now biggest thing is um that we struggled with for a long time is how do you choose the right RV for your lifestyle and that really depends on what you're doing whether you're a weekend warrior you're going on weekl long trips or you're consistent traveler um are you going to be doing full hookups or boondocking are you going to be going off-road Go state parks or Resorts and so the best advice that I've seen there is um motor homes are for traveling travel trail travel trailers are for the Destin ation so you take travel trailers you park them somewhere and you leave them whether that's for a month or for 6 months and motor homes are more for traveling full-time you're driving a lot um and then from there you know what size do you need do you need it to be able to go off road are you going to be going off on small roads with little Bridges how tall is it or do you want a bumper pull if you're going to be staying in places for a long time do you need to be able to access everything when the slides are in that was something we learned the hard way is that yes we want to be able to access everything in RV when the slides are in at least all the critical parts that's something that took us a long time several iterations of of RVs and lots of looking to find the right one for us especially like T we said like with the slides being in like we can get to the fridge we can use the restroom we can get to the bedroom I can get to most of the covered spaces when the slides are in which is super nice motor homes are for traveling travel trailers are for Destination that's a good rule to live I have not heard that before but that's that's a nice way to put it anyone listening right now who wants to start making the way towards a travel lifestyle what would be one thing they could start doing today yeah so what I would do is start planning out where do you want to go what do you want to do when you get there um I mean that'll that'll do a couple things for you it give you a dream and motivation um to get towards that dream and help you plan out the equipment that you need um right because you got to you got to have your plan first uh what you want to do and then you you find the tools that you need to get there so motor home's a tool and so if you if you have your end goal in mind that'll that'll give you something to do uh start a dream what's that called the vision board nice yeah you're AC right yep do one thing at a time too don't do it all at once right how to you eat an elevant you eat it one bite at a time that's it yeah were there any YouTube channels or other influencers that you were watching when you were in that kind of that vision board goal setting phase of your life that motivated you oh I follow a lot of follow uh face group Facebook groups I'm the Tiffin Facebook groups um I follow a few I found that the the intro RV groups aren't that great but if you can find like one that's specific to your travel trailer that can be very helpful um a lot of the problems that we deal with I I find on Facebook and then I add them to my folder and then we've like the squirrel cage went out so I knew exactly how to fix that it was this horrendous noise that was going on if I hadn't seen that on Facebook I have no idea what that was um so i i pen all that stuff um and then you know that they teach you destinations or if you have issues you can post on it um that's that's a really good one for your specific um and while my audience is checking out those pages where can I find out more about you so glad you asked you can follow us on on Instagram and uh action plan that's a
_ plan act. andore plan all right action plan andian Tyler thank you guys for coming on the show you learned a lot about just um you know have coming up with the plans living on the road I have all sorts of notes here so make sure to link those um thank you guys for coming on thank you