I am excited to present my chat with Paul VanderKlay about poverty and the messiness of serving the poor. In this episode you will hear about the different upbringings that Paul and I come from (he from being around poverty and me being ignorant of it). We also talk about the 6 years he spent serving in the Dominican Republic, we talk about the difficulty of serving the poor, and we question our own motivation when attempting to help others. It was a great conversation and I know you will learn a lot from it!

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