Stepping into the pod lounge is Grand Rapids native singer, songwriter and producer Joel Ferguson, best known as the frontman of alternative rock band Papa Vegas, and resident bassist for The Verve Pipe.  We deep dive into the making of the Papa Vegas record Hello Vertigo, including the writing and tracking process, and how the record was promoted with artwork and tour stories…. We hear tales of Joel’s run ins with celebrity producers and mixers, like Don Gilmore, Ken Andrews, Tom Lord-Alge, and none other than Ice Cube….  After another edition of New of The World, we discuss the new Christopher Nolan movie Oppenheimer and the final Indiana Jones film. Later, Joel gives us the low down on his departure from The Verve Pipe. Soak it in.