Pat is joined by Sir Bryan to have chat about rugby, family, The famous 1975 Eden Park Water test against Scotland, hard trainings ,Moana Pasifika, Ponsonby Rugby and much more.

An amazing conversation with an inspirational leader in our community so good we had to make it in two parts. Here is part 2.

Sir Tuifa’asisina Bryan George Williams KNZM MBE (born 3 October 1950) is a former New Zealand rugby union footballer All Black and former coach of the Samoan national rugby team.