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Chapters:

00:00 - Intro

00:15 - Welcome back to episode 51! Jon introduces his close friend of over 10 years, Cham Jung, and outlines Cham’s accolades and personal qualities. 

1:05 - What are Cham’s career goals?

2:00 - Why does Cham have a ring in his ear because of Jon’s drumming? Jon and Cham tell funny stories from their younger days.

3:05 - Where does Hugh live in Arizona and can Cham handle the heat? Cham tells us about Fresno, California. 

5:40 - Cham explains how he’s finding his first ever visit to New York. 

8:00 - How did Cham get into his profession? Cham explains how his diagnosis of childhood cancer changed his life.

12:50 - What do Cham and Jon like to do on a Friday night? Jon discusses the importance of visualizing your future. 

18:00 - What are behavioral health units like? Cham tells us first-hand experiences on the psych ward.

23:40 - What are Cham’s own reflections on human behavior?

27:45 - What does Cham think about the different mediums in which people can seek mental help? Cham tells us his views on alternative therapies.

33:30 - Cham discusses schizophrenia, major depressive disorder, and bipolar in depth.

38:25 - What is the placebo effect? Cham outlines the differences between a therapist, a psychiatrist, and a clinical psychologist.

42:50 - What are Cham’s thoughts on the mental health crisis currently occurring in the USA? Cham elaborates on the importance of empathy.

48:45 - How does Cham feel in job interviews? Cham tells us about the hurdles of medical school. 

50:45 - Is perfection possible?

53:00 - What are Cham’s parting thoughts? Cham highlights the importance of supporting your mental health, including diet and exercise.