The podcast duo is back for another episode, but this time they're talking about the shoe industry. Malia and Chris sit down with Salim Collins and Kimani Jones of Ascend Apparel to discuss their company while also reviewing the book "Shoe Dog" by Nike Founder, Phil Knight. Salim and Kimani explain how Phil Knight's finesse game compares to theirs. The partners also discuss the misconception people have about their company when they shop with them.