Championing for your own entrepreneurial dreams takes a heck of a lot of courage.

But finding joy in advocating for the dreams of others?

That takes someone with a whole new level of grit, determination, and passion for seeing others thrive.

Associate Vice President of Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Texas Tech University, Kimberly Gramm, just so happens to be that person, and in this episode, she chats with Kade about what it takes to be a leader who finds joy in riding shotgun on someone else’s journey.

Listen now only on The Primitive Podcast.