Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses suicide and addiction, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.

It’s hard to imagine that you could feel alone when Beyoncé is amongst your friends, when you’ve created programs and systems that have housed and cared for thousands, and you are the lead pastor of a large progressive church. But as this week’s Space Maker will teach us, until we separate our work from our identity, we will always feel isolated. This week’s space maker is the incredible Rev. Dr. Rudy Rasmus. Rudy shares with us about the loss and celebrations of being a Space Maker, why it's our pain—not our gifts—that help us heal the world, and why prosperity won’t get us anywhere. Rudy is an author, humanitarian, and leadership consultant with a passion for outreach to the world’s most challenged communities. He co-pastors the St. John’s Church in Downtown Houston with his wife, Juanita. A church that began with 9 existing members in 1992, St. John’s has grown to thousands, where every week people of every social and economic background share the same pew.

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