She's back...our first guest on the pod, Carley Smale, joins us almost exactly two years later for a fun catch up! We loved getting to hear how Carley's career has grown since we last had her on the pod! In this episode, we chat about the challenges of maintaining creativity amidst life's pressures, the current slowdown in the entertainment industry, and the importance of persistence in pursuing creative goals! We're also so excited for her because her first Netflix Christmas movie, "My Secret Santa, " is about to come out!! She also has another Christmas movie, "Thank God: Christmas at Keller Ranch" coming out on Lifetime too -- time to start the Christmas movie marathon!

Trailer for 'My Secret Santa:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Y5qYp8ro8

Press release for Thank God" Christmas at Keller Ranch: https://itsawonderfulmovie.blogspot.com/2025/10/lifetime-announces-christmas-film-thank.html

Follow Carley on Instagram at: @YouveGotSmalee

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