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In this interview from Black Hat 2025, David Bombal sits down with two cybersecurity legends: David Cowen (Digital Forensics Expert) and Evan Anderson (Red Team Operator and Tool Builder). They give an unfiltered look at the real world of hacking, forensics, and career-building in cybersecurity.

What we'll cover:

• How the SolarWinds hack was discovered with never-before-heard forensics insight

• Real-world red teaming using HVAC exploits, USB pivots, and AWS chaos

• The Oculus vs. Carmack lawsuit story from the expert who worked the case

• How to start your career in cybersecurity, even without a degree

• What the CCDC program is and why it leads to 3 job offers instantly

• How AI is changing the game for hackers and defenders alike

// David Cowen’s SOCIALS //

SANS Profile: https://www.sans.org/profiles/david-c...

LinkedIn: / dcowen

X: / dcowen

// Evan Anderson SOCIALS //

Offensive Context: https://blog.offensivecontext.com/aut...

LinkedIn: / syndrowm

GitHub: https://github.com/syndrowm

// Website REFERENCE //

https://www.nationalccdc.org/

https://www.sans.org/emea

https://ctftime.org/

https://www.uscyberpatriot.org/

// YouTube Channel REFERENCE //

13Cubed: / @13cubed

// David Cowen’s Books REFERENCE //

Computer Forensics:

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UK: https://amzn.to/460ErGs

Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics: Secrets and Solutions

US: https://amzn.to/4mYevCW

UK: https://amzn.to/46q07NH

Hacking Exposed Computer Forensics: Secrets and Solutions:

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UK: https://amzn.to/4m8zaCS

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// Menu //

0:00 - Coming up

0:49 - Intro

01:13 - Sponsored Section

01:29 - (AWS) Amazon Web Services

03:04 - David Cowen’s Background

03:46 - Evan Anderson’s Background

05:18 - Advice for young people To Get A Job In this Space

05:56 - The Solar Winds Hack?

10:43 - Finding a needle in a Haystack

11:08 - The Oculus Story

13:00 - Evan in Red Teaming

15:55 - Advice To Younger self

16:51 - Recommended Courses

19:42 - Importance of Networking

20:19 - Recommended Certifications

24:13 - Is AI Taking All The Jobs ?

24:57 - Connect With David & Evan online

25:12 - Conclusion & Outro

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