This episode Marty and Kate weren't really sure what they were going to talk about, but they ended up talking mostly about how they create characters, taking into consideration for how they will form a series of books, and how characters are created when an HEA is the end goal.

The Orc from the Office is Kate Prior's latest novella. Or check out her website at www.kate-prior.com.

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