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Let’s be real—making friends as an adult is hard. Between marriage, kids, work, and the daily grind, who has time for friends? But real wealth isn’t just about money—it’s about meaningful connections.

In this episode, I sit down with my best friend of 17 years, KaToya Sumner—a fitness instructor and POUND Icon—to unpack why adult friendships can feel so challenging and how we can actually build relationships that last a lifetime.

We share our own friendship journey—from an unexpected roommate situation to navigating life’s biggest transitions together. We dive into why friendships require the same level of intention as business, how consistency and quality time strengthen connections, and why stepping outside your comfort zone is key to meeting the right people. Plus, we break down the double-edged sword of social media and its impact on modern friendships.

If you’ve ever struggled to maintain friendships, find new connections, or just feel seen in this season of life—this episode is for you.

KEY POINTS: 

- How our friendship started 

- Reflection on our journey and significant life events 

- Challenges of building adult friendships 

- The different levels of friendships

- How to maintain healthy relationships

- Navigating social media and building life network

- Boundaries, tough conversations, and mutual respect 

- Katoya’s three (3)  tips for building new friendships

- On prioritizing social & meaningful connections 

QUOTES: 

“I am an expert [in] making sure that you have time for yourself. I believe in you,  legit.” – KaToya Sumner

“It's appropriate to identify the level of the friendship so that you can identify the energy and time you're going to give to it.” – KaToya Sumner

“We're talking to entrepreneurs today. We're talking to people who are building wealth. There's also something in building that discomfort and taking that risk in relationships.” – KaToya Sumner

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GUEST RESOURCES: 

KaToya Sumner 

IG | @kdsumner

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Erika Brown

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LinkedIn: @erika brown

Wealth Within Reach is produced by EPYC Media Network