On the Subject hits a milestone with its first-ever three-person episode, featuring two inspiring leaders from Tustin Unified School District: Diana Gebe and Ali del Castillo. Host Michael Vilardo sits down with these powerhouse educators to explore what it means to lead with empathy, foster innovation, and center education around trust and access for all students. From their early passion for teaching to their current work in credit recovery and instructional leadership, Diana and Ali reflect on how the classroom has changed since 2003—and why the future of learning must focus on risk-taking, skills-based education, and teacher autonomy. Plus, don’t miss their moving tribute to the students who made it all worth it.