Something passed between them: the faintest hint of a common destiny. Does this describe Paul and Arlo’s first meeting, or the first time Farmer Hoggett sets eyes on the piglet known as Babe? What’s the difference? For a new That Was Then, the boys are joined by perennial guest Eric Sipple to discuss Chris Noonan’s 1995 film Babe. Celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, the unlikely Best Picture nominee set a new standard for animal VFX and influenced a generation of vegetarians and vegans. The gang discusses the film’s surprising macabre side, its view of destiny, how it compares to Orwell’s Animal Farm, the contentious relationship between Noonan and co-writer/producer/shadow director (?) George Miller, and much more.

 

NEXT: drop some acid, find your spiritual center, and join us for a Four-Color Flashback exploring the first three volumes of Alejandro Jodorowsky & Mœbius’ The Incal.

 

 

BREAKDOWN

00:01:22  -  Intro / Banter

00:03:38  -  That Was Then: 1995

00:24:20  -  Babe

01:47:28  -  Outro / Next

 

MUSIC

• “Pigs on the Wing” by Pink Floyd, Animals (1977)

• “Piggies” by the Beatles, The Beatles (1968)

 

GOBBLEDYCARES

• National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ 

• Abortion Funds in Every State: https://bit.ly/AbortionFundsTwitter

• Support AAPI communities and those affected by anti-Asian violence: https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/stop-aapi-hate

• Support the AAPI Civic Engagement Fund: https://aapifund.org/

• Support Black Lives Matter and find anti-racism resources: https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/

• The Trevor Project provides information and support to LGBTQ youth: thetrevorproject.org

• Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/ 

• National Center for Transgender Equality: transequality.org

• Help teachers and classrooms in need: https://www.donorschoose.org/

• Do your part to remove the burden of medical debt for individuals, families, and veterans: https://www.unduemedicaldebt.org/ 

• Register to vote: https://vote.gov/