Seja talks to her guest Martha Brown (Banoffee) about how they became friends while touring together in the early days of Otouto. She talks about her memories of writing and singing with her sister Hazel and over the years progressing as a musician, songwriter and producer when she started her solo project Banoffee. Seja and Martha talk about their Steiner educations, late night snacks, going on a world tour with Taylor Swift and the theatre of turning knobs. There is lots of chat about Banoffee’s new album ‘Look At Us Now Dad’, relying on sadness for inspiration, looking after oneself on tour and karma.

Martha’s strange show story was illustrated by beautiful singer Your Smith. check out her music here - www.yousmithforever.com

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