In this episode I sit down with Natalie Dumer, a political candidate for the United Australia Party for the electorate of Wentworth for the upcoming Federal election for Australia (2022)

I have met some wonderful people through this political journey I'm currently on and I always find it interesting to understand how people have arrived at this particular point in their lives.

Natalie shares her experience of growing up in Ukraine under the former USSR and shares stories from her life that have compelled her to participate in the world of politics.

I really feel like debate is such a great mechanism to exploring ideas and often it's through exploring positions we don't necessarily agree with we can sometimes come to a better understanding of how to navigate difficult topics of discussion.

Enjoy!