In her conversation with Michelle Witen, Emilie Pine talks about her novel Ruth & Pen (2022). She discusses the city as an urban, but also internal landscape; the infertility journey depicted in the novel and how she wanted to give the male character a space and a voice in this; the intertwining of embodiment and displacement; the difficulty of finding your voice and of listening; neurodivergence in narrative; intertexts in Ruth & Pen; and how her academic interests inflect her writing.

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