When we think about our purpose in life, many of us hope we will, in some small way, contribute to leaving the world and our fellow humans better than when we arrived. Well, our inspiring guests today, Penny Moodie and Hugh van Cuylenburg, can actually say they've already achieved that mission and they're not stopping there.

These two have committed their lives and careers to making real change in the mental health space, and they've really struck a chord with the Australian public. Penny, author of the trail blazing book the Joy Thief, and Hugh, founder of the Resilience Project and the Imperfects podcast, sat down with us to get raw and vulnerable about their own relationship. And in a nutshell, we discovered these two really do practice what they preach with a no holds barred approach as we dug into their lives. We hope you enjoy. This one was extra special.

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Books

The Joy Thief by Penny Moodie

The Resilience Project by Hugh van Cuylenburg

Let Go by Hugh van Cuylenburg

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