In this conversation, Nick and Jert discuss their experiences at QuestCon, the operations of Space Penguin Inc., and insights into crowdfunding for indie RPGs. They explore the challenges of vending at conventions, the intricacies of print runs and distribution, and the importance of marketing strategies for upcoming projects. Jert shares his experiences with Kickstarter and the significance of building a community around their products, while Nick reflects on his own journey in the tabletop gaming industry.