This week, Alexis gets non-technical with Waseem Daher, the CEO and co-founder of Pilot. They talk about the gentleman’s “shabam!”, dAsHbOaRd cOnFeSsIoNaL, when the thought DOESN’T count, ​​#PizzaWeek, and what song to play at your next Senate confirmation hearing.

You can find Waseem on Twitter at twitter.com/waseem and Alexis at twitter.com/yayalexisgay or instagram.com/yayalexisgay and twitter.com/NonTechnicalPod.

This episode is sponsored by Modern Treasury! Modern Treasury makes APIs to help companies build products that move money. Psst! They’re hiring: moderntreasury.com/careers