It's 2021 so sometime this year, surely, we'll be able to return to our offices safely. Hold on though - Kristine Dahl Steidel, VP of VMware, has research that says people don't actually want to go back. She discusses findings and motivations with #nearfuturist Guy Clapperton and considers the shape of the workforce from now on.

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