Diane Debrovner, magazine editor and mom of two girls 11 years apart, joins the podcast. She shares how she started out at Parents Magazine when her oldest daughter was just 18 months old and how hard it is to navigate motherhood because no one knows what they’re doing! She shares the one universal truth that we all need to do no matter what age our kids are. (Spoiler: TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, MAMAS!) Karen has a Worst Mom of the Week that will make you vomit, and Kyle ends on a story about a woman turning 100 who still gets tattoos.