In this episode of the WIT Podcast, hosts Brandon and Jon sit down for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about the lessons that shape us—both personally and professionally.

From upbringing and discipline to leadership, work ethic, and the impact of mentors along the way, this episode dives into what really molds character over time. Brandon and Jon explore how sports, family values, hard seasons, and intentional quiet moments play a critical role in growth, perspective, and long-term success.

This isn't a highlight-reel conversation—it's a real one. The kind that reflects on mistakes, humility, and the habits required to keep moving forward when motivation fades.

If you're someone who cares about personal development, leadership, and becoming better in the areas that actually matter, this episode will hit home.

Topics covered include:

• How upbringing and early influences shape leadership

• The role of discipline, humility, and work ethic

• Learning from mentors and life experiences

• Creating space for clarity, creativity, and growth

• Why consistency matters more than motivation

🎧 Tune in and get grounded in what it really takes to build a meaningful life—on and off the field.