In today's show early Peruvian shaping pioneer Rodolfo Klima joins us to discuss Peru as the inception place of surfing and it's integral role in early surf competitions, learning how to shape by instinct alone, Gordon Clark's unknown factory in Peru, the challenge of building a business in an unstable economy and democracy, why Peru may generate the next disruptive crop of pros, and his opportunity to compete in the Icons of Foam shaping competition. Enjoy!