Graydon came on to discuss anthroposophy which postulates the existence of an objective, intellectually comprehensible spiritual world, accessible to human experience. Materialism was nowhere near what it is today, so people were very much attuned to the spiritual realm back in biblical times. We pondered this and discussed Rudolf Steiner's works, gnostic texts, ancient civilizations and subages, the Nag Hamadi library, lost gospels and more.