Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium.<a href="https://zipmessage.com/default-alive">Ask us a question →</a>Notable mentions:<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/CasJam">@CasJam</a> on Twitter</li><li><a href="http://zipmessage.com">ZipMessage</a></li><li><a href="http://bootstrappedweb.com">Bootstrapped Web</a></li><li>More <a href="https://transistor.fm/podcasts-for-bootstrappers/?via=corey">podcasts for bootstrappers</a></li></ul>Learn more about their businesses:<ul><li><a href="https://swipefiles.co/">Swipe Files</a></li><li><a href="https://jetboost.io/">Jetboost</a></li></ul>Follow them on Twitter:<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/coreyhainesco">@coreyhainesco</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/c_spags">@c_spags</a></li></ul>

Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium. Ask us a question → Notable mentions:@CasJam on TwitterZipMessageBootstrapped WebMore podcasts for bootstrappersLearn more about their businesses:Swipe FilesJetboostFollow them on Twitter:@coreyhainesco@c_spags

Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium.<a href="https://zipmessage.com/default-alive" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ask us a question →</a>Notable mentions:<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/CasJam" rel="noopener noreferrer">@CasJam</a> on Twitter</li><li><a href="http://zipmessage.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">ZipMessage</a></li><li><a href="http://bootstrappedweb.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bootstrapped Web</a></li><li>More <a href="https://transistor.fm/podcasts-for-bootstrappers/?via=corey" rel="noopener noreferrer">podcasts for bootstrappers</a></li></ul>Learn more about their businesses:<ul><li><a href="https://swipefiles.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Swipe Files</a></li><li><a href="https://jetboost.io/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jetboost</a></li></ul>Follow them on Twitter:<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/coreyhainesco" rel="noopener noreferrer">@coreyhainesco</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/c_spags" rel="noopener noreferrer">@c_spags</a></li></ul>

58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel

Two founders share an unedited look at what it's like to bootstrap a startup through weekly updates. Chris Spags is the founder of Jetboost, a suite of no-code plugins for Webflow. Corey Haines is the founder of Swipe Files, a membership site for marketers built with no-code tools. They chronicle their journeys getting to and staying "default alive": profitable, self-sustaining, with infinite runway.

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58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel

58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel