El Paso-based Dan Vaughn, the founder of Protagonist Soccer and one of the most knowledgeable people in the country when it comes to lower-league American soccer, joins Watke and Belz for a wide-ranging conversation that often circles back to the CFC-Red Wolves rivalry, geography, and Ricardo Pepi.

Relevant links...

Protagonist Soccer: https://www.patreon.com/protagonistsoccer
Protagonist podcasts on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2VCcvJK493KwhKwDPNt8Cl

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