Terry Irwin is the professor of Transition Design and the director of the Transition Design Institute, in Carnegie Mellon University. In this interview we talk about how she moves from being a professional designer to be an academic. She explains the four areas of transition design and tells us about the doctoral program.

This interview is part of the lists: D&D in English, Educación en diseño, EEUU y diseño, Diseño en transición, Investigación en diseño y Diseño sostenible. The list names are in Spanish - most of our podcasts are in Spanish, but you'll find some episodes in English or Portuguese in these lists.

Terry mentioned Cameron Tokenwise, whom I interviewed in episode 565. We discussed co-design towards transitions, exploring opportunities in the public sector and universities for driving creative futures. Our conversation covered energy transitions, designing for a less material-intensive society, his new book, and the intrinsic magic of design.