We had our first ever podcast guest!!! This means this episode will be at least 50% better than anything we’ve done so far. 

Dr. Tom Rundel is a pastor with a doctorate in spiritual formation and leadership. He is a long friend of Pete’s and a new friend for Tom. 

In this episode, Dr. Tom shares his story of growing up in the faith, and how many of the things he was taught about the Christian faith ended up, in an odd way, fueling him in his education and calling into ministry. He has come to discover what he calls the major blind spots of American Christianity, most significantly that much of the American Church uses religion to hide from God. 

(Yeah...reread that last sentence and let your mind be blown...then prepare for more and listen as Dr. Tom drops wisdom bombs.)

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