Second episode of the four part mini-series, "Classically Trained Indie Rockers", Jae talks to the indie band, Thee More Shallows's singer and song writer, Dee Kesler, who was originally based in San Francisco, CA, but now residing in Minneapolis, MN with his wife and two boys. 2021's "Dad Jams", which is Thee More Shallows's fourth full-length album, and the first full album Dee has released since 2007's "Book of Bad Breaks". The two chat about what Dee's been doing between the albums, family life and staying creative, while being a parent. Dee begins by sharing his days learning to play the violin through the Suzuki method as a youngster to the trials of touring with TMS, while being on the road. During the segment called "Secrets of Beethoven", the two get into the reason why it became a tradition in Japan, that every orchestra in the country performs Beethoven's Ninth Symphony on New Year's Eve. If you like the episode, please give a Five Star rating and subscribe to the pod! https://theemoreshallows.bandcamp.com/