In episode 6, Leon sticks up for LA before telling us about his start in graffiti and we bond over 90’s underground hip-hop. He tells us about college in Arcata and his move to SF. We discuss a couple of paintings of his and try to figure out what the heck they mean!

In the process we discuss symbolism and clarity of intent in painting. Sergio gets us into a discussion about the controversial removal of a Waterhouse from a museum. We end the podcast by talking about what media we consume while painting.