Sitting down with my friend Roger, we talk music. This is a sprawling conversation consisting of many different parts. About how music is a form of pure expression, the evolution of "popular" music and how it's is indicative of current culture, the arduous shedding of pretention, Ed Sheeran as a human-form of a recessive trait, trends in music, and comparing quality music/ultra-processed music to organic/GMO apples. We also talk about bidets. 

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