In this episode of re[connect], Deedra and Megan shift the conversation from internal healing to how Internal Family Systems (IFS) helps us engage with others. They explore how fear-driven self-protection keeps us divided—whether in personal relationships, politics, or culture—and how curiosity and compassion can lead to true connection. Drawing from insights by IFS expert Jenna Riemersma, they discuss how moving toward rather than against others creates space for understanding, healing, and unity.

They explore:

• How our internal fears shape the way we engage with the world
• Why self-protection often keeps us stuck in division and disconnection
• The role of IFS in navigating conflict with more curiosity and less reactivity
• How systemic issues mirror our personal protective mechanisms
• The challenge of advocating for justice from a place of love instead of fear

With cultural references (including Wicked and Zootopia), personal reflections, and a deep dive into how our self-protective instincts impact relationships, this episode is an invitation to pause, reflect, and choose connection over division.