Kindling with Shay Robbins again takes on Christian leadership, but this time highlights the qualities of being an effective leader alongside Trish Helsel, Executive Women's Director of Kanakuk Kamps. While many qualities are mentioned and discussed, Trish and Shay talk the most about being an effective encourager and leading amidst hardship in one's own life. Our hosts have spent a considerable number of years forging leadership culture around themselves and the people that come into contact with them, and the wisdom shared in this week's podcast proves that experience well!