Ever read a book that you couldn't put down, but when you finished it you didn't know why? The story or writing contained different qualities that you don't like or thought you didn't like. No, you definitely don't like 'em. But you also, kinda... liked this book?

Kate and Marty discuss what makes a story work even against all odds.

Be sure to download our Holiday Special on December 20th! We hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoyed recording it.

Also, Marty talks about Pie Lady Books' Instagram.

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Pre-order Kate Prior's new-release, Be My Bad Guy, where the superhero's ex girlfriend falls for the supervillain's henchman after a kidnapping gone wrong.

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