In this episode of Shelaborate, we explore how one small conversation can ripple into lasting friendships. Kath and Kyra sit down with their friend Caitlyn Vandermeer to unpack the "social butterfly effect"—the idea that a single conversation, comment, or gesture can spark change and friendship. We dig into Caitlyn’s life stories and travel. We talk everything from her time as a Drill Sergeant in the Army to meeting her Korean big sister. Tune in to hear how Caitlyn has turned everyday conversations into lasting frienships all over the world.